Tuesday, January 19, 2010

Scott Brown, Republican Senator for the Peoples Republic of Massachusetts?

To say that I am thrilled to see the rejection of "The Kennedy Legacy" and Obama's false promises and exaggerated claims during the election would not do justice to the term "understatement". The vast majority of the knuckleheads voting for "Obamacare" did not even READ the legislation. Now, the first big vote on Obamacare is in the history books... its dumb law, folks! It takes a screwed up system, and instead of fixing healthcare - it destroys the country, the currency, and our competitiveness!

The Republicans deserved getting their clock's cleaned last year, but not by the current crop of scum sucking, dirt bags in Washington.

I LONG for gridlock. Both groups are locked in a death grip of tax and spend destruction of our country. A new solution can't come soon enough.


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24 comments:

bureaucrat said...

Any workable solution to health care at this point would have to be scaled down and incredibly simple. I vote for "do first stage and do the rest later." Everyone should be able to be seen by a physician assistant or nurse practitioner. They cost $60,000 a year on average (doctors cost $140,000 at least), and can handle probably 80% of people's vaccinations, aches and pains. They would be supervised by full doctors, and would have to bid for their position locations. One nurse prac for 1,000 people (320 million in U.S.) would be $30-40 billion a year (Medicare is $450 billion). Start basic -- the next level is for the next president -- if Canada, UK and France can do it ...

Anonymous said...

Yes, please Bur, if that works so well for you, pick one of those countries and emigrate. Personally, I don't want someone who makes $60k a year deciding if I'm sick or not. These under-qualified people will also be the gatekeepers who are rewarded for keeping us away from the rest of the system. Could that be a problem? Like anything else, you get what you pay for. I've got relatives in Canada who were denied appropriate and timely treatment. One of them is now dead. No thanks.

I hope for gridlock too. Neither party is working for the general good anymore. Instead, they are pandering to this or that demographic or lobby or pressure group to the general detriment. I wasn't too happy with GWB and the Republicans, but this bunch is making Bush look like Abe Lincoln.

Throw the bums out.

Regards,

Coal Guy

Anonymous said...

I am very happy to have voted for Scott Brown.

Regards,

Coal Guy

Donal Lang said...

I seem to recall that Rome had political gridlock too. I read about it in The Collapse of the Roman Empire!

Did you know that the Roman Senate continued to meet and argue even after the country had collapsed and the barbarians had taken over? Apparently barbarian tourists would come and watch!

Yeah, gridlock is a great idea!

A Quaker in a Strange Land said...

Donal:

Good to hear from you!

In any event, gridlock is better than what we have been getting for some time...

Obama blew it. A 3 eyed, flat headed, 1 legged, retired prostitute could have won the presidency last year... he and especially his asinine supporters, over promised - and the lumen masses actually BELIEVED that silly sh*t - and when he failed to not deliver on ANY of those promises, it was game over.

American politics has gotten weirder and weirder in my life time. We have conditioned a HUGE segment of the population that Big Brother will provide, and although they have come to expect this... Big Brother is now one big fat, slobbering unit staggering its way to a heart attack because it is carrying far more people on its back than it was meant to.

A Quaker in a Strange Land said...

If said working girl was a democrat, I meant to say....

bureaucrat said...

Everybody hates the government, except when it's their benefits that stop. :) We admitted Obamaphiles never sent him to Washington to expand the wars and bail out the rich. Our error. :) But Clinton could turn on a dime when he knew the public wanted something else (more restrictive welfare comes to mind). I'll bet Axelrod (an Obama advisor) is spinning Obama around right now, and maybe Obama will get the message. And I would be happy to consider retiring to "one of those places" for my health care, but they do not seem to be letting many people into Canada, UK and France. Wonder why ... :)

Anonymous said...

B,

Oh,you can get in these countries if you like.In Cananda's case you can not work legally for six months,once you apply for citizenship. I had a friend who married a Canadian women,then moved there. Also,the women could not take his last name because of the health care system. And I am sure you know that parts of Canada are French only speaking,and it is illegal to us English in some cases such as business signs. Again, from friends who live there.


I think you would be happier here (US) Bur. Oh,has IL figured its insolvency problem out yet? To many B's getting to many $ ? ;););););););) :0

Anonymous said...

peace

Anonymous said...

Why is it that people in this country have such a sense of entitlement? At one point we lived in the greatest country in the world, possibly the best the world has ever known. People used to give up everything to come here. People left their family, friends, jobs, everything just for the OPPORTUNITY to have a better life. Most knew that their lives would not be much better and may even be worse, but they also knew that their children and grandchildren would have the ability to make a life for themselves with nothing but hard work and determination. When did people become so selfish? What can you do for ME? I am entitled to have a house, food, healthcare, etc... simply because I was born here. WHAT THE HELL???? Forget the fact that this is all unsustainable. Forget the fact that we are in a bullet train headed for a brick wall. If people would just stop thinking of only themselves and pretend to care about anything but what their country can do for them, we might have a chance to at least rebuild with some character and integrity. But that wont happen. We will bleed this thing for all its worth and only after there is nothing left will we realize what we have done.

Anonymous said...

Bur,

The Democrat's mantra. "Just pass something now and we'll fix it later."

HA!

Regards,

Coal Guy

Jacob Gittes said...

Wow! Again, I find myself agreeing with Bureaucrat.
I have to disagree with you for once, Coal Guy. I have had excellent care from nurse practitioners and physician's assistants. As long as you can get a doctor when you need one, it is an excellent use of resources to outsource tasks to nurse's and PA's. In fact, they are often better at the regular stuff, as that's all they do.

France and Canada have much better health stats overall. If you are rich in America, you do well -but even there, statistics show that even the wealth in the USA have lower life expectancies and more disease. My take, after much reading, is that simply living in a society with too much poverty or income disparity causes stress for even the wealthy.
This is not an argument for or against any political ideology. It is simply an observation of data and a likely hypothesis. That is what is so evil about crony-capitalism/kleptocracy: the elites use the veneer of a "free-market" system to consolidate their power and send the system as a whole into a very dangerous stasis of increasing inequality.

Anonymous said...

Publius,

Will public healthcare run by the crony capitalist elites be any better than anything else they run? This bill buys off the AMA, big pharma, labor unions, the state of Nebraska and a host of other vested interests in order to achieve passage. Let's fix crony capitalism (American Fascism). There are better ways to approach this.

The problem is with too much concentration of power in two few hands. National healthcare is simply an extension of the problem. Not a solution. I've listened for years to the Left's railing against business and monopoly power. Yet, their approach is always to centralize all power in the government to create largest of all possible monopolies. They are incredibly FOS.

The present system is unsustainable. Therefore it will change. It doesn't need a Federal monopoly to be established in order to for that to happen.

Regards,

Coal Guy

A Quaker in a Strange Land said...

Who knows? The REpubs had their establishment disemboweled, maybe that will happen to the Dems, and the new folks in both parties will be better than what we have had. Maybe a third party will come to pass (finally).

In order for anything to get done, a few special interest groups have to upchuck and die, and some others have to form.

Anonymous said...

I find it hard to believe that a brilliant analyst like Jeffers can actually believe that ANYBODY voted for Obama based on the "hope and change" rhetoric.

An Obama vote for most people was a vote against a continuation of Bush policies and against the prospect of a Palin Presidency.

Anonymous said...

Anon9:06,

I can beleive it. Did you happen to catch all the crying, screaming ,etc for the man during his final few months of the election. That is scary. Hope in what? Clinton had a great presidency on the surface, as did Reagan. Their policies/ agendas/etc are now bearing fruit. As will Obama's, unfortunately. I say that only because of the disclosure we where promised,has not been.

peace

A Quaker in a Strange Land said...

Peace:

You forgot to mention the Nobel Peach Prize, nominated after, what was it? 12 days in office?

My larger point was my criticism directed at Obama's supporters! They were the ones that actually BELIEVED!

No, you can't! The presidency is defined by the Constitution... where was it written that a President can do all of the things Obama's supporter's claimed.

The mirror image goes to GWB. Much of what he was castigated for was beyond ANY president's control.

Both parties have become tax and spend whores and panderers. The only issue of merit that separates them is abortion... and even that is just for show - just look back to the 1992 election and watch the elder Bush (disclaimer: I worked for his campaign) back peddle on abortion, nearly claiming himself pro-choice as he desperately tried to cling to office (and I think he is a Great Man, but that made me sick).

We need REAL CHANGE we can believe in - but we are not going to get it without a major disaster first. That's how real change gets done.

Anonymous said...

"Fannie and Freddie have paid $200 million into campaigns of 354 politicians over the last 10 years."

I copied this off of Mish's latest post. How is it that a Government Sponsored Entity, created by the government as a service to the people should pay to influence politicians. Cronyism on steroids. We need change. It's not coming from either party... yet.

Regards,

Coal Guy

Anonymous said...

Greg,

Sorry, I believe I got my "believes" confused. I disagree with Anon 9:06 on that the believers did not vote for Obama on the hope thing. They did. Oh,and the peace prize thing ( not worthy of Capital letters )just proved that this is a world wide side show,and all world leaders believe or hope Obama is for real. You couldn't make this shit up on TV,or maybe they did. Like you mentioned NO REAL change will come until a disaster hits, maybe 30% unemployed,unprepared and homeless, meets post oil. Or open choice.

peace

Anonymous said...

Coal guy,

Saw the video. I wonder how we can watch a man clearly spell out the issues/fixes and we get it, and the politicans don't/didn't. I guess I am being niave. I think the Mass. elections will show us just how rigged (or not) things are, a conformation if you will.

peace

Donal Lang said...

I find it strange that you guys are forgetting that the crisis created on was GWB's watch,that Obama was democratically elected by Americans (unlike GWB first time around), that he's only been in for one year so can hardly be expected to have achieved much, that gridlock is stagnation and death in a World with so much going on, and that you have the worst outcomes, most expensive, and least successful healthcare system in the developed World!

If Republicans believe in America and not just in Republicans, they should be ashamed of their attitude of blocking ANYTHING proposed by Obama on so-called 'principle' (???) and try being creative for once to fix the problems. You guys are in the back of the bus, the brakes have failed and you're hitting the hairpins. Smacking the driver over the head isn't helping!

Greg; as for the ' 3 eyed, flat headed, 1 legged, retired prostitute', I can't comment. I'd have to bow to your greater experience! ;-)

A Quaker in a Strange Land said...

Donal:

ROFL!!

Once upon a time I worked in healthcare finance, and even held local elective office.

I see things VERY differently... but this is an energy and libertarian blog, so I am going to beg off on a healthcare debate.

I really don't think that ANYONE can do ANYTHING to fix these issues prior to the "Big One" (and I mean that as a political crisis coming out of an economic cluster f**k).

So, until that time, for my part I am going to vote for Pro-Life Libertarian types (and I see no contradiction there... Libertarianism does not mean anarchy), and see to my own families issues.

bureaucrat said...

Hard-core Obamaphiles like me did NOT vote for him to expand wars we cannot afford anymore, and did NOT vote for him to bail out Wall Street and the wealthy. It took him less than a year to do a 180 on us (where are the progressives in his administration?). Never expected him to resolve the biggest asset bubble in human history blowing. We asked for so little, and that's pretty much what we have gotten so far. :)

A Quaker in a Strange Land said...

Donal:

I forgot "toothless". I meant 3 eyed, toothless, flatheaded, 1 legged"...