Wednesday, October 1, 2008

Let's sum it up

The employment picture in Finance , Insurance, and Real Estate is going to contract HARD.  There seems to be a lot of anger out there toward the working stiffs in the financial services biz - the mortgage broker, real estate broker, insurance broker, etc... judging from the comments on my blog and the email that I get.  

Folks... I DESPISE the Stan O'Niel's and Richard Grasso's of the world as much as the next guy.  These guys, and others like them, along with their boards of directors, etc... were a disgusting bunch of unethical elitists that had NONE of the talent they claimed and were so handsomely compensated for, that absolutely stole money by the basket and took the food right out of people's mouths.  Don't worry, Oh Roman Mob... we will hang not a few of them, and spend 10's of millions of $ on legal fees and prison cells, for all the good it will do us.  What do we do with the LEGIONS of people that just went to work at these places every day?  Let them eat cake?  

Should the U.S. bring legal action against the former Wall Street execs to recover excessive compensation?  Sounds ex post facto but that would be OK with me... I think - though I am not a lawyer and I have no idea what outrageous precedent we might be establishing, considering the convoluted self righteous way in which our legal system works.  Speaking of which... remember the good old days?  When everybody could agree that LAWYERS were the universal pariah?  Ah, I long for a return to simpler days.

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Now that it appears the Injection Plan is going to become law, I want to point out something that many of you who have read my stuff might find surprising:  

The Plan might not work.

Yes, I supported it.  No, it is not the best plan, or necessarily the one I would have gone with if I were a leading member of TPTB... But, I know something most of my readers (considering only the comments and emails that I get) do not - and that is how dependent our corporate payroll system is on the commercial paper market, and how that market, and hence American's paychecks, nearly came to an end last week.

We can all point to our favorite hero - Warren Buffet supports the plan (and wants a piece of it), George Soros hates it and thinks it will fail, T. Boone Pickens favors the plan, former U.S.  Treasury Secretary O'Neil says the plan is "madness".  I think they are all a bit right.  The plan IS madness, and it could work - IF the Fed and Treasury are successful in their bid to reinflate AND the Oil import crisis can be held off for a couple of years.  Still, I think that the U.S. had NOTHING to lose, and will only gain a few years for the better informed to make adjustments for the coming impacts of declining Oil inputs.

But look at it this way:  We are ALL going to die, but isn't it better to put off that eventuality for as long as possible?  

Those of you opposed to the plan might yet get your chance to say "I told you so", though I don't know what the appeal of collapsing right here and now instead of a couple years down the line has for you.  Don't be so impatient. We will get there.  Get your own house in order.

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The ECB and the Fed are both going to have to cut short term rates (for all intents and purposes, the Fed already has... they just have not made it official).  This should be interesting vis a vi the various commodities.  Consider these data points:

  1. Oil & product inventories are down considerably from last year, but
  2. The Global economy is in a recession...
  3. Or is it?  It is VERY hard to have REAL Global demand decline for commodities in a world with 75 million new mouths to feed, water, clothe, and transport.
  4. The U.S. and its currency sets the price of Oil, and the U.S. is clearly in a recession.  But Oil imports into the U.S. are down 8.8% in 2008 versus 2007.  
  5. Will Oil imports into the U.S. continue to fall in 2o09 vs 2008?  If so, the U.S. recession is only just beginning (and if not, with all of the stimulus injected into the system, along with a potential Fed cut, it is hard to see how TPTB would be unsuccessful in reinflating.
  6. Still, vehicle sales are crashing, down 27% from a year ago!  What is that saying about the market's view of future energy supplies?  Is the decline all due to credit? After all, why buy a new vehicle if you don't have the fuel to run them all?
  7. Americans have no net savings.  The assets they have, real estate, stocks, and bonds, are performing poorly (to say the least). Americans will of NECESSITY have to increase their savings.  In contravention to item 5, it is very hard to avoid a significant contraction, irrespective of the stimulus mentioned, if folks save (under consume) rather than consume.
  8. Even if credit is made available in the economy we still have the budget and trade deficits, unfunded healthcare, costly wars, etc... to contend with.  
The cuts will of necessity be coordinated.  How and how much and their subsequent impact on Gold, Oil etc... is going to be interesting.  Investing and doing business in this environment is going to be beyond the word "challenging". 

Good Luck!

Mentatt (at) yahoo (d0t) com

7 comments:

Anonymous said...

I don't support it for a number of reasons.

1) Like oyu said it likely wont work anyway.

2) When the economy fails anyway we will be dealing with everything we are today plus hyper inflation

3) We are further endebting our children.

4) We have basically destroyed the constitution.

But the main reason I am against it. Sure life will be hard. Unemplyment will rise. But we have just sold our soles to the devil. Every time this nation has a crisis (mos tof which were constructed by the government) the government sweeps in with some new power entity to save us. And we all give up a little more freedom to be saved. Why? So we don't have to feel the pain?

Those who fought the revolution sacrificed tremendously for years. We send our troops off to die for freedom. But we can't put the goddang credit card down for it?

We are a pathetic nation who deserves no freedom nor peace. We deserve the fedeal reserve. We deserve the 16th amendment and we deserve the crap ass government we have.

Maybe one day people will start thinking about the bigger picture. Maybe one day they will stop thinking me me me and my wallet.

Pathetic if you ask me.

Donal Lang said...

I agree that it may be a delay, I don't see it as any kind of 'fix' because the problem isn't going away. No other country, sovereign fund or investor will see the US as toxic-free.

The strange thing is the lack of deep panic, depression and collapse so far (yes, I know there have been some flurries, but....). Do investors really see this rescue as a market solution worthy of the big buying sprees? Or is it just the concerted efforts behind the scenes to support markets, and a few gamblers going along for the ride? For me, I don't understand why oil isn't back up to $150 and the markets down 40%, because that's where they ought to be.And they can't defy gravity for ever (but maybe until Bush is out of office??).

But one thing will surely follow the rescue plan - a public and international rewriting of the banking and investment sector rules, limiting leverage, damping speculation and controlling commissions. It'll be easy to implement as so much of the sector's survival is now government-dependant!

A Quaker in a Strange Land said...

I did not say it "likely" wont work, just that it maight.

We are NOT indebting our children. They will default on the debt eith outright or through inflation you just mentioned.

It wont help to destroy the Constituition further.

From my perspective, folks in your camp are ANGRY. Anger won't help you think clearly

Bureaucrat said...

We see the picture of you and your kids, Jeffers, and I assume you've noticed that if you let them "get away with it just this one time," you've made a big mistake as a parent. I have no kids but I have younger (Mexican) friends who will take advantage of every situation. So why should we let the "CEOs" and Wall Street titans get away with it "just this time?"

Excessive compensation is looking at a few leaves instead of the tree. The problems are the BILLIONS, not a few 10s and 20s. The problems are too much easy credit for too long, and oughta-be-illegal stuff like option ARMS.

Good luck reinflating. I went to the Jewel food store last night. They are practically THROWING products at you. I got 2 for 1 deals on Nutrigrain bars, Nabisco chips and Life cereal. There is no money! Nobody can buy even if they wanted to. Prices are dropping to move product. Deflation.

I now have $22K in the Rogers commodity fund. Wish me luck. :)

One commenter mentioned the lack of outrage and protest concerning the "situation." On the news last night, they were talking about the Cubs playoff game. What was the news report mostly about? The Chicago cops, and how they will be "all over this game," with their fancy "command center mobile home, with the unified command," whatever that is. We can only hope the expansion of law enforcement going on now will be limited by the shrinking local govt. tax revenues.

Anonymous said...

Hi!

If this is the best that the bunch of greedy, power hungry bums can do, well then so be it. And yes, people are angry. People that work, pay their bills and taxes, and obey the law are feeling like pack-mules for the elite bastards on the right and left. We have scant representation. Time for a new Party.

If this gets us past a collapse, GOOD. My dad talked about eating shadow soup 6 nights a week during the Depression. It's shadow soup because you can see your shadow on the bottom of the bowl. I'm not interested in that kind of character building.

Anonymous said...

"We are NOT indebting our children. They will default on the debt eith outright or through inflation you just mentioned."

Ok then why not do it right now? If it is so easy to default why not do it right now?

Because its not easy. Everyone knows that the good life is way beyond over once we default. And we want the good life (or easy life). And we are willing to ensure our kids MUST default on the debt so that WE might have it.

Its that sort of thinking that got us in this mess and the sort of thinking that should be crushed like the bug it is.

Greed is still very much alive and kicking even in the working stiff. Its ingrained.

We are stuck with the Federal Reserve today because our forefathers weren't man enough to deal with the real world. And look at the good its done.

And if you can show me where in the constitution the government derives its powers to bail out financial institutions bad debt with tax payers money I would love to see it.

Unrepentantcowboy said...

If we were all going to die, you'd be right.

I don't believe that to be the case.

Paulson plan: Financial eugenics

Read and weep.