Friday, October 2, 2009

Propoganda

Ever hear that B.S. about pay disparity between men and women? Sure, we all have and we hear it all the time.


Two school teachers in Florida both have a consensual sexual relationship with 16 year old students. The male teacher gets 5 to 10 years. The female teacher? 5 months. (BTW 5 months in each case would have been more than enough to get the point across.)

A woman (Caylee Anthony) murders her own daughter. Does the State seek the death penalty? Nope. Another guys kills a man that was sleeping with his wife... So... The State seeks the death penalty. Of course! Does this make any sense to you? (Disclosure: I am vehemently opposed to the death penalty, murder (I am funny that way), and abortion... )

The wife of the Fort Lauderdale police chief got, get ready for this - 9 MONTHS - for shooting a gun at her husband... not once, but 3 times! Two shots fired while she chased him across their yard! Never mind that firing a gun during the commission of a crime is supposed to be a 30 year mandatory sentence here in the Sunshine State; never mind that those 2 shots could have killed one of my kids as they drove by.

How many years do you think that a white 48 year old MALE, say me, for instance, would get in PRISON - not some county jail - but don't drop the soap PRISON... for firing a gun at my wife? Wanna bet its more than 10 years? What's up with 9 months? We have people in prison here for 30 years for POINTING a gun at someone during the commission of a robbery (OK with me), but this lady gets 9 months for trying to kill her husband?

I want to know where the outrage is in this case. Where are the women's groups that rail against domestic violence?

We have become a nation of victims - race, gender, height, weight, nationality, sexual orientation - and these "victims" now enjoy incredible advantage in marriage/divorce, criminal justice, job advancement, collage acceptance... so much for justice being blind.

For the most part our system sentences criminals to prison for far long, but not in this case.

I want to know what the heck is so special about this woman?

Oh, and about that pay disparity... just another fiction. But you will keep hearing it, because someone wants you to believe it.


Greg

10 comments:

tweell said...

Women inmates in AZ are 10% of the total prison population. I might note that the lower sentencing that women enjoy does not extend to drug crimes, there they get a relatively comparable sentence. Why? It's hard to claim victimhood when dealing, I reckon. Meth is a drug of choice for many, there are lots of prematurely aged faces with very bad teeth.

bureaucrat said...

Whenever you think someone is getting away with something, while another person doing the same thing is "getting away differently," you might want to dig a little deeper into the details of the case (I myself wouldn't waste my time, but if the subject is interesting to you ...) With mandatory minimums and judges being modestly intelligent (not to mention up for re-election in many cases), I think you'll find the disparities to be reasonable/explainable in a lot of cases.

A Quaker in a Strange Land said...

bureaucrat:

Not even a little bit. Zip. Zero. Zilch. Nada. Bupkis.

More to come.

Anonymous said...

In Ohio the laws have changed some what. "Old law" as inmates call it was very biased and unfair,SO, the laws where changed, I guess. Now the "New law" is suppose to correct the unfairness that you pointed out by a predetermined sentence. Do a specific crime an a specific sentence is awarded, each time, no more " the judge through the book at me".

NOW, after ten years of this new law in practice. The guys/gals doing bad things go in for a few years, then get out do bad things again go back in for a year or two get out do bad things go back, well you get the idea. So the criminal gets more chances to victimize and little incentive rehab since these new sentences a very light.

Peace

Stephen B. said...

Back when I was working at a popular organic teaching farm that hosted about 20K elementary school kids a year for school field trips, I noted that some of our new teacher/naturalist employees were put right to work before their CORI and/or SORI (criminal and sexual offender) record checks came back, while I had been made to wait. I was unashamedly told by a coworker that I had to wait because I was a man.

This double standard you talk about works on several levels indeed.

A Quaker in a Strange Land said...

Well, outside of prison, women are the victims of sexual assault far, far, far more often than men.

But back to sentencing...

OUr criminal justice system absolutely creates more criminals and criminal behavior. Sending people to jail for drug crimes where they learn some really bad stuff and make friends with some really bad people, add the inability to get a job with a criminal record (unemployment is 16.5 % for all Americans, for those with a record its more like 50%)... shake, bake... and voila! The gift that keeps on giving.

A Quaker in a Strange Land said...

The point is there is NO pay disparity. Police officers, nurses, teachers, all government workers are paid the same irrespective of gender.

The difference comes from small business owners and occupational differences. No one has a problem that 3 out of 4 jobs lost in the recession came from fields with higher male employment.

Compensation improves by a number of factors. Should a female school teacher be compared to a commercial fisherman when the risk of death for the fisherman is several standard deviations from the school teacher? If you go by education only, the school teacher should be paid more... that's why we have a free market.

A Quaker in a Strange Land said...

If you go to court as an accused criminal, in a divorce, in civil litigation, or for any reason it simply better to be female.

It is also better to be a white man than a black man. But it is far better to be a black woman than a white man.

Simple like that.

tweell said...

I work for Corrections, and the disparity is very evident (except for the category of drug crimes). It is what it is. Something that is harder to find out is that the 10% of women inmates manage to produce the same amount of legal complaints, issues with officers, etc., as the 90% of male inmates. That is with only the best staff being assigned there.
Prison is a great place to learn to become a more skilled criminal, that is true. Rehabilitation is expensive, teaching inmates trades where they can get decent jobs is difficult, especially now. Private prisons don't bother, that would be counter-productive for them. The necessary budget cuts state prisons have been given fall mostly on rehabilitation programs. Security is essential, medical is mandated, rehabilitation is neither.

A Quaker in a Strange Land said...

Hi Tweel:

Did not know you worked in corrections... then again why would I?

Anyway, regarding the 10 % of the female population making 50%+ of the complaints, etc... makes perfect sense.

Anytime you give a group VICTIM STATUS this is the absolute certain outcome.