Saturday, October 10, 2009

Obama Laureate

What next for Obama. A crown? But first, our quote of the day

"Wall Street controls our financial lives; the media manipulates our minds. These systems cannot be changed from within. There is no alternative. Without a revolution, these institutions will bankrupt the country, keep fighting failed wars, start new ones, and hold us in perpetual intellectual subjugation." - Gerald Celente, Trends Analysis CEO, Libertarian, and thinking person

Skip the following if you don't like my take on politics...

Well, I for one am dismayed at the Nobel Committee. Not that I don't think they are a bunch of communist, elitist filth - I do. I just get peptic when I think of how much blood has been shed by Americans only to be in the position of having other interests trying to manipulate our politics (not that we don't do the same thing... I am not any happier about that. You know what your mother used to say about "two wrongs). As many of you know, I like to point out stunningly FOS people - take pro-choice vegetarians for instance (just talk about FOS) - but can you get more FOS than the Nobel Prize for Obama? Jimmy Carter is a Nobel Peace Laureate, and I am no fan of the former President, but at least he was not pro-abortion. How can you be a pro-abortion Nobel Peace Laureate? Next we will have pro-death penalty Nobel Peace Laureates. Is there really a difference between bombs, IED's, Iran's gallows, Texas' execution chamber or an abortion doctor's scalpel? Either you stand for the sanctity of human life - or you do not.

How Liberal's split those hairs is beyond my comprehension.

Speaking of which... I heard something rather intelligent from someone capable of abstract, if politically incorrect, thought (disclosure: he is white, over 70, male, self made multi gazzilionaire, highly educated, married 40 + years with kids... successful people like this often piss people off).

He said something like this: "You know why many women HATE Sarah Palin? It wasn't because of her infamous interview, or her views on abortion. It was because she was married at a reasonable age, started her family young, had a bunch of kids without having to be peeing in a petri dish because she put off childbearing, and succeeded WILDLY at everything she set out to do, even though she was married with children. Even her book is a best seller. Women like Palin give the lie to the feminist's argument - and they hate her for it".

I am agnostic on Palin, but you do not have to be a Sarah Palin fan to see the logic of his opinion. Jealousy is a powerful emotion.

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18 comments:

kathy said...

That is the single most absurd thing I have ever read. Love you Greg but I am in no way jealous of Sara Palin. I got married young, had my kids by birth and adoption with no help from a petri dish. I too have a couple of successful books under my belt. Sara Palin is another slick talking, good looking politician. I wouldn't trust her with my girl scout cookie money, forget about a country on the verge of economic collapse. She doesn't have the intellectual chops for VP or, obviously, governor. You are judging women on some outdated notion that we spend all of our time comparing ourselves to Barbie. Some credit here please. Nothing would make me happier than to have a soccer mom kind of president but a compentent one would be a good idea, don't you think?

Anonymous said...

I'm just going to say that women are their own worst enemies.

A Quaker in a Strange Land said...

Hi Kathy:

As I said, I am agnostic on Palin. I thought it was an interesting point of view - and in my opinion probably accurate.

I think women disliked her for being beautiful, succeeding, and having a family. Not that the interview with Couric helped. But that's why we have elections. So that the PEOPLE can have their say.

To say that a working class girl who makes it to Governor is incompetent is a stretch, though her media experience was certainly problematic. Please remember that I DETEST the media, anyone failing their test gets EXTRA consideration from me.

And yes, I would very much like to see a successful, soccer mom with a passel of kids and a husband in tow make it to the White House.

A Quaker in a Strange Land said...

Sorry Kathy...

Back to the original point. Palin's experience does give the lie to Feminist propaganda IMHO.

I think it unfair to say that I judge women "on some outdated notion". I think women with that chip on their shoulder can put down those 2 suit cases full of bricks whenever they decide. I simply follow my nose and experience where ever it leads.

kathy said...

I am perfectly competent in many arenas but I would make a simply dreadful president or VP. I applaud her rise to governor but that does not imply readiness for higher office. To which propaganda do you refer? There are many contenders. I object to your thinking I would hate her for being attractive. Do you hate Obama becuase he is literate or attractive? Of course not. You are judging on merit. I expect the same consideration.

Anonymous said...

I suppose you know that there are TWO Nobel Prize groups.

Sweden does everything except the Peace Prize.


Norway does the Peace Prize. The committee is appointed by Parliament and is currently composed of 5 people who are either current or past members of the Norwegian Parliament.

It is easy to see how they come to make bad decisions as they are politicians.

Why wait for performance? Grant on the rumor, the report, the hope...

Donal Lang said...

I'm with Kathy on Sarah Palin - if she was ever voted in for anything more, ever, (including girl scouts)it would reinforce what the Rest of the World thinks of Americans and their political judgement. (BTW, that's a negative!)

Which brings me to Obama; he's doing good things but I agree it was too soon and I was surprised and a little disappointed. I think it was just the opposite of the Palin thing above, the RotW was so surprised and pleased that Americans did something sensible for once, the Nobel committee thought they'd give him the prize quick before some right-wing dickhead shot him!

A Quaker in a Strange Land said...

Donal!

Your anti-American undercoat is showing!

And Kathy,

I think you would likely be as fine a public servant as any that have run for office, if I can judge by the limited communication we have had here.

I can't help it - Being a self educated, white trash, working class kid, I am only too happy to see folks from my side of the tracks do well. I am thrilled for Palin, while being agnostic on her as Veep or President.

Also, I find it very hard to vote for pro death penalty candidates, and impossible to vote for pro abortion candidates. That's just me. I absolutely DETEST people willing to play G-d (and I am fairly secular). And candidates that think we need to - or are willing to go along - establish military outings all around the f*&^ng world a la the last 10 or so U.S. presidents, including BHO make me ill as well.

Guys of my political stripe do not wish to involve themselves in your personal life - and I don't want others, through the &^%$$!! government involved in mine.

Enlightened self interest and personal responsibility will give us a better life than government intervention ever could IMHO. In the end it is MOOT, the various government's in the U.S. system are going broke.

Donal Lang said...

Greg,
it's my anti-American-politics, and it's a TOPcoat and hat!

But hey, ya-all voted for Obama, so democracy won in the end, huh? (even if some crusty old Republican diehards can't stop whinging about it! ;-)

tweell said...

Perhaps I'm crazy, but I am both pro-life and pro-death penalty. Original sin was a doctrine that never went over too well with me, I always figured that unborn babies are innocents. Not knowing when a soul shows up, I'm for erring on the safe side.
On the death penalty side, I get to deal with the inmates on death row, albeit on an irregular basis. These folks have already violated the no killing code, generally multiple times. When it comes to people that will kill other humans for profit and amusement, I'm all for putting them down like a chicken-killing dog. It's absolutely certain that an executed murderer won't kill again, 'life without possibility of parole' has been commuted before. Finally, they're incredibly dangerous for us Corrections personnel to deal with as well. Handling someone with nothing to lose and nothing but time to figure out ways to do you in is... rather scary (some understatement there).

kathy said...

I have to chuckle at the thought of putting a cabinet meeting on hold because the oyster mushrooms are fruiting and interrupting a press conference because the timer for the pressure canner just pinged. I had 5 teenagers at one time and turned into a dictator, benevolent perhaps, but things were done my way and dictators are always lousy public servants. Still, I appreciate the vote of confidence.

Anonymous said...

While I think that Sara Palin is too inexperienced at this time to be a senator or vice-president. Her qualifications are not what get under the left's skin. She has the same problem as Condi Rice and Colin Powell. She won't play the victim. She is successful under her own power, and that makes her a damned bad example. What if everyone did that???? What would the condescending, elite, bloated, self-impressed left have to live for? Go Sara GO!

Regards,

Coal Guy

A Quaker in a Strange Land said...

Coal Guy!

My point exactly, you just said it better than I did.

Tweel:

I did not mean to raise the death penalty issue other than to say that I have voted for death penalty candidates in the past even though I oppose it, but could never see myself pulling the lever for a pro-abortion candidate under any circumstances. So I guess I was trying to point out that we all make compromises on our principals at times.

And in the end, I do NOT believe that a sitting president runs the U.S. They are the final decision maker, but they don't make anything actually happen. If you buy that argument, can you tell exactly why Palin or Kathy or any other reasonable, hard working individual with the kind of ethics (I never use the word "morals" as the word always seem to apply to sex, and we all know what hypocrites we are when it comes to sex) I can live with would necessarily do a bad job? Especially one that, by ALL accounts has done an excellent job as Governor?

Spare me the "Alaska" is small time BS. Bill Clinton was the Governor of ARKANSAS.

tweell said...

Take a look at Palin's record in politics, and you will see that she has been anti-corruption all the way. She is pro-business, but also dragged the oil companies out of the driver's seat in Alaska, not an inconsiderable task.
Our 'news' sources never having been reliable IMO, I try to look at how politicians have voted, what they have championed and accomplished. I personally didn't think that she was ready for prime-time, but in a few years, Jindal and Palin will be able to give Obama some real trouble.

kathy said...

Toatally off the subject here. As you know, I am no economist (although my check book balances) but I do wonder your take on the dollar index Greg. Most people I talk to about this have no idea what the indes is or why it matters.

A Quaker in a Strange Land said...

kathy:

My good friend and fellow analyst, the Mad Scientist has some excellent takes on at at:

ispeakofpeak.blogspot.com

I will have something to say about it shortly as well.

Tweel:

I do not think most Presidents are ready fo prime time when they get there, and many are not ready when they leave. People SURPRISE you.

Anonymous said...

Greg,

You wonder how liberals split hairs. They don't have to. There is nor reason for consistency when you are the Almighty. You can make it up as you go along. How can you be wrong whey you are answerable only to yourself and by definition, you are right.

Hell, the left wants to BE G-d! That is their big problem with religion. It is also the reason for radical atheism that exists within the left. The existence of a higher power might mean that there are limits to what they might rightfully do. That is not an acceptable condition. The idea that there are inalienable human rights, and there are places that government (and the liberal elite running it) ought not go is an anathema. There is nothing that the left will not do in support of the "greater good" by their definition.

They pretend that atheism is the neutral position on religion. In reality they just want to substitute themselves. An atheist has taken just as much a corner position in the religious argument as a Presbyterian or a Buddhist. The neutral position is agnosticism. I wish the courts would figure that out.

Ponder this and you won't need to wonder if the left needs consistency:

"All is right which advances the cause of socialism."

Regards,

Coal Guy

Anonymous said...

I second coal guy on that final thought...

Yo Greg!

Where you at?

Energy issues ain't going away...

Obama is gonna be our Gorbachev.

Let's move on and get back to $$$ and energy.