tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-99704500378481622.post1986949473148539039..comments2023-10-14T08:23:14.641-07:00Comments on The American Energy Crisis: The American Dream is NOT dead, and not by a long shotA Quaker in a Strange Landhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15425198389944137571noreply@blogger.comBlogger32125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-99704500378481622.post-20835650663252875172010-08-24T04:25:30.338-07:002010-08-24T04:25:30.338-07:00Well lets see.
Pretty single page with little inf...Well lets see.<br /><br />Pretty single page with little information on the Landsociety site. Nice colors though :)<br /><br />The fishing association looks pretty large. I used to teach Summer sessions on fishing myself for the State conservation dept. before it was de-funded because of it's lack of diversity. Not sure what funds they had since it was all volunteer. Last I heard they elected to send those funds to St. Louis though.<br /><br />But since community work seems to be doing something in this discussion I also am one of the local farmers market coordinators and took on the task of local bee keeper when our old one retired last year.<br /><br />Other than some volunteer work for Christian Freedom International and teaching GED classes for the State prison system (a real eye opener BTW) that's about it these days. Well along with working 50 hour weeks and prepping my farm for local production when/if my community needs it.<br /><br />Now what exactly is your point? I see you have a lot of contacts with volunteer organizations. Don't we all? <br /><br />I personally have little faith in alternative energy and believe a strict adherence to the Constitution and a strong community is the answer to the problems looming in the near future. <br /><br />Of course I maybe wrong or behind the times on alternative energy so I leave it to more up to date folks.<br /><br />Notice that is the community I live in. Not some dream community with hopes of spending other people's money to design and build it. That is what I care about the people around me and what they will need.<br /><br />So again what is your point of even questioning what myself or others who comment on this blog do?PioneerPreppyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09269878017447335944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-99704500378481622.post-66359650904388372212010-08-24T00:44:43.172-07:002010-08-24T00:44:43.172-07:00Me? I work with a volunteers orgaisation called Tr...Me? I work with a volunteers orgaisation called Transition (now over 300 communities worldwide including the US), which plans for a post fossil fuels economy, and creates sustainable businesses. At the moment I'm working on a not-for-profit land redistribution company which will be running by the end of the year www.landsociety.org <br /><br />and a sailing/electric ferry, UK to France for 250 passengers<br /><br />and creating a course for young people to learn sustainable inshore fishing http://www.linecaught.org.uk/(with a local college)and then lease them the 20' fishing boats<br /><br />and we're negotiating options for land to build zero carbon Transition Homes as a Community Land Trust (CLT).<br /><br />Professionally, I lecture Sustainable Development, and I'm part of a team bidding for the design of a 700 homes ecotown.<br /><br />So you; you talk about it, and....??Donal Langhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03421610061804732275noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-99704500378481622.post-38321880021169498882010-08-23T14:23:01.445-07:002010-08-23T14:23:01.445-07:00Seems to me Coalguy and a few others (including me...Seems to me Coalguy and a few others (including me) are doing what they can by attempting to tell the world and point out what is happening.<br /><br />Now what is it you are doing Donal?PioneerPreppyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09269878017447335944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-99704500378481622.post-32134769335937725512010-08-23T07:01:59.558-07:002010-08-23T07:01:59.558-07:00Coalman; i don't recall the part where I was l...Coalman; i don't recall the part where I was looking down my nose at you. I don't recall anyone talking about, 'The British Dream'! (at least not since the early days of the British Empire).<br /><br />As I DID say,'just displacement activity' and here's one for you, 'What are YOU going to do to fix your country's problems?'<br /><br />Are you part of the solution? Or part of the problem?Donal Langhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03421610061804732275noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-99704500378481622.post-29389723819187139152010-08-23T06:49:52.186-07:002010-08-23T06:49:52.186-07:00Bur,
There is plenty of blame to go around. ...Bur,<br /><br /> There is plenty of blame to go around. We all went to the party. It is reasonable to expect a hangover. I'm not pointing any finger of blame. The UK did not cause our problems, and vice versa. Both nations practiced similar policies and got similar results. Imagine that.<br /><br /> But, if you look at the numbers, the only way that Donal can be looking down his nose at the US is if he's standing on his head. <br /><br />Regards,<br /><br />Coal GuyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-99704500378481622.post-42513773553543091902010-08-23T06:18:24.054-07:002010-08-23T06:18:24.054-07:00So this is how it ends. The debt from MANY countr...So this is how it ends. The debt from MANY countries of the world presses down on all economic activity, and everyone starts pointing fingers of blame.<br /><br />"They talked and talked and talked, but no one could stop the avalanche." --- The Road Warrior introbureaucrathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03869739125758038029noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-99704500378481622.post-46904299499158428302010-08-23T05:44:54.657-07:002010-08-23T05:44:54.657-07:00Donal,
I think you have a bad case of the pot...Donal,<br /><br /> I think you have a bad case of the pot calling the kettle black. The UK's numbers don't look so good either. The UK's government has also made plenty of promises it can't keep. You have suffered a real estate collapse as well. The day of reckoning is near for all of us.<br /><br />External Debt as % of GDP: UK 416%, US 94% (2009)<br /><br />Public Debt as % of GDP: UK 68%, US 53% (2009)<br /><br />As for distribution of wealth, according to the Telegraph, the UK is more skewed in distribution of wealth than the US.<br /><br />http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/finance/edmundconway/100002243/inequality-in-britain-is-of-developing-world-level/<br /><br /> The sorry fact of the matter is that the whole developed world is insolvent. Further, government programs decrease savings at the lower end of the earnings spectrum, and make matters worse.<br /><br />Regards<br /><br />Coal GuyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-99704500378481622.post-58728906829670074692010-08-23T03:17:29.422-07:002010-08-23T03:17:29.422-07:00PP; you see what I mean?
As someone once mention...PP; you see what I mean? <br /><br />As someone once mentioned, deal with reality or reality will deal with you. Bitching-back about Europe's problems is just displacement activity.<br /><br />What are YOU going to do to fix your country's problems? Or are you still chasing that elusive (and illusive) American Dream.......?Donal Langhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03421610061804732275noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-99704500378481622.post-17580979141886205642010-08-23T03:01:27.775-07:002010-08-23T03:01:27.775-07:00Ya your right it's been pretty rough having to...Ya your right it's been pretty rough having to re-arm the English military after they left all their gear in France. Then slog our way back across Europe spending all our money to make sure the old motherland was safe while the Europeans got to spend their taxes on social engineering. BTW how is that ever expanding sharia stuff working out for ya?<br /><br />I guess now that the US is broke you guys in Europe can spend your own money on defense and who knows maybe Russia won't do your leaders in like it looks they might have done to Poland. <br /><br />Not to mention maybe we can use some of your medical research now.<br /><br />It's all good though I am sure the North Sea has plenty of oil left.PioneerPreppyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09269878017447335944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-99704500378481622.post-68495457307800335582010-08-23T02:45:17.510-07:002010-08-23T02:45:17.510-07:00You guys always seem to get caught up in the detai...You guys always seem to get caught up in the details and miss the Big Picture. The USA used to make lots of money from oil, and missed out on the destruction of the World Wars which obliterated the European economies. Hence the 1920's (post WW1) and the 1950's (post WW2)were your Golden Ages and that's when you managed to acquire some very expensive expectations (more through Hollywood than healthcare!)including all this marketing crap about 'The American Way of Life' which was just created to make you all buy more stuff!<br /><br />Not paying for healthcare so you can all get back to chasing 'The American Way of Life' would be absurd if it wasn't so sad. Grow up!<br /><br />You're broke, you're getting more broke by the minute, you've got too many guns, too many drug addicts, too many homeless people, too many destitute, you're still in a war you can't win, and you've run out of oil.<br /><br />The American Dream was just that; a dream. A few of you have achieved it but your country is fast moving towards a wealth profile approaching Latin American dictatorships; 7% of the population owning 90% of the wealth, and 40% of the population owning less than nothing!<br /><br />Seems to me you guys need a reality check.Donal Langhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03421610061804732275noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-99704500378481622.post-85318635142492862742010-08-22T08:23:50.089-07:002010-08-22T08:23:50.089-07:00'And when Yamar lifted up his voice, they did ...'And when Yamar lifted up his voice, they did not listen. And when he cried aloud, they put their hands to their ears, laughing. And when he showed them the cloud upon the mountains, they said it was afar and would come not nigh. And when a sword glinted in the hills and he pointed to it, they said it was but the dancing of a brook in the sun.'<br />We cannot know what is to be. That does not mean that we should not take precautions against troubles that we see can happen. That is only prudence.<br />Happiness is a state of mind, albeit one whose pursuit is hallowed by the Constitution. Peace of mind goes far towards making one happy. I'd much rather have informed peace of mind vice being an ignorant professional voter, placated by bread and circuses (oops, unemployment/food stamps and TV). That is why we are here, no?tweellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08164718561825615886noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-99704500378481622.post-74131124791901740322010-08-21T22:52:58.211-07:002010-08-21T22:52:58.211-07:00Wont cost you anything to look at your life object...Wont cost you anything to look at your life objectively and say, right now, what is wrong? I'll bet very little, unless you are unemployed.bureaucrathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03869739125758038029noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-99704500378481622.post-17649578408682021452010-08-21T14:39:29.914-07:002010-08-21T14:39:29.914-07:00Bur, your comments are always so sunny. I feel so...Bur, your comments are always so sunny. I feel so much better and less depressed about our economy, the national debt, our resource base, our entitlements, the war (how many are we in now?), etc. I think I'll throw out the Prozac, go outside and enjoy the day. <br /><br />Remember, "always look on the bright side of life", ;)<br /><br />Idaho HomesteaderAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-99704500378481622.post-33318837416674393492010-08-21T13:55:11.369-07:002010-08-21T13:55:11.369-07:00Everything I say has some basis in fact. You have...Everything I say has some basis in fact. You have a blog talking about the "American Energy Crisis."<br /><br />Wanna show me where? <br /><br />We have oil, gasoline and natural gas in storage up to our eyeballs. I'm not a huge fan of Mish, but he is right .. we are oversupplied in everything (due to the runup to this depression).<br /><br />And for all the whining from the commentators (whom I love dearly :)), the overwhelming majority of adults who want to work are working, every month people get their FULL Social Security checks, Obama pays me every two weeks, people around the world are buying our Treasuries ...<br /><br />Other than 1 in 10 people being unemployed, and a massive debt overhang that may last decades, there are no other cards to show (yet). I'm just trying to be a voice of reason before everyone starts moaning "the end is near!"bureaucrathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03869739125758038029noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-99704500378481622.post-65320688084766102562010-08-21T12:35:23.024-07:002010-08-21T12:35:23.024-07:00Bur:
Adult participation in the U.S. Labor market...Bur:<br /><br />Adult participation in the U.S. Labor market is roughly 62.5% - the lowest in the post war era.<br /><br />Please, if you are going to make assertions, check your facts first. THe U3 and U6 data points are not compiled using any formula that would be acceptable in statistical analysis (were it not from the U.S. Government). The participation rate is compiled via taxpayers vs population - a much more accurate and appropriate measure.<br /><br />As I have said before... you are not really trying to add value to the discussion... you just want to argue and be contentious. Why?A Quaker in a Strange Landhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15425198389944137571noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-99704500378481622.post-16700149349356879952010-08-21T06:36:13.796-07:002010-08-21T06:36:13.796-07:00Phased out and made into private accounts? You me...Phased out and made into private accounts? You mean similar to the 401ks that workers have .. that have only an average of $60,000 in them .. the ones too many people are now taking loans against ... you must be out of your mind. :) <br /><br />One thing we have learned in 30 years ... the average person doesn't know how to invest for anything, including their retirement. They don't take enough risk and they don't save/invest enough. It just isn't in them. They are too scared or too unwilling to reduce their living standard.<br /><br />Social Security is the third rail of American politics. Touch it and you die.bureaucrathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03869739125758038029noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-99704500378481622.post-23661700880685395912010-08-20T20:51:51.598-07:002010-08-20T20:51:51.598-07:00My times are just fine. :) And 90% of the people ...My times are just fine. :) And 90% of the people who want jobs have them, according to govt. statistics (assuming 10% don't). Good luck waiting for the "collapse." Might want to wait until we have actual shortages of anything first. :)bureaucrathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03869739125758038029noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-99704500378481622.post-53381153394269050092010-08-20T18:33:59.956-07:002010-08-20T18:33:59.956-07:00Our leaders won’t back out because it’s too profit...Our leaders won’t back out because it’s too profitable to their well heeled supporters; it’s also why we are in Iraq to begin with. I read Donald Rumsfeld’s and Paul Wolfowitz’s <a href="http://www.newamericancentury.org/iraqclintonletter.htm" rel="nofollow">call to war</a> BEFORE Bush was elected. The pertinent question is cui bono?<br /><br />Maj. General Smedley D. Butler spilt the beans on <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_is_a_Racket" rel="nofollow">the racket</a> back in 1935 and nothing has changed since.Danhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04354887108778074009noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-99704500378481622.post-88144807253605216722010-08-20T17:57:11.649-07:002010-08-20T17:57:11.649-07:00BUr,
She said that they need to be phased out(rep...BUr,<br /><br />She said that they need to be phased out(replaced with private accounts) and the paper reported that she wanted to defund SS. Bush talked about this 6 yrs ago and the whiny little dems would not reform the system. Bush was right then and the idea should gain traction now that almost everyone but you knows the system is heading for a train wreck.(also reminds me that dems fought tooth and nail against closing fannie and freddie in 2003-06) It will be hard bur but it has to happen if we ever want to return to better times.Dextred1https://www.blogger.com/profile/10295971877800381681noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-99704500378481622.post-27629064637799277252010-08-20T17:24:59.436-07:002010-08-20T17:24:59.436-07:00Everyone see the bit on NBC News tonight about the...Everyone see the bit on NBC News tonight about the lady challenging Harry Reid for Senate in Nevada? At first, she was telling the voters that "Social Security and Medicare should be shut down eventually." Then she got some Republican political consultants on her payroll, and now she's saying that the "Social Security Trust Fund should not be touched." Lord Almighty! Hypocrisy everywhere!bureaucrathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03869739125758038029noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-99704500378481622.post-61650986498239908162010-08-20T15:28:34.899-07:002010-08-20T15:28:34.899-07:00Bur,
You and o'turdman on MSNBC should hook u...Bur,<br /><br />You and o'turdman on MSNBC should hook up and pretend you know how everyone feels, thinks and acts. You can tell us all again how socialism (big government) is so great. How amazing it is to end a Childs life while it plays in the womb and how everyone is a racist, bigot or crazy. You are product of your own delusions. It matters not what you say because the outcome<br /><br />As they say I have seen the light, I will not depart and I will hope with earnest expectations that I will once again see freedom born in the land that first articulated a government to serve the best interests of the people based on natural rights derived from the bible, not some sniveling little government bureaucrat who is only looking out for himsel.<br /><br /> "It is when people forget God that tyrants forge their chains."<br /><br /> Patrick HenryDextred1https://www.blogger.com/profile/10295971877800381681noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-99704500378481622.post-62994109733480447372010-08-20T14:24:10.961-07:002010-08-20T14:24:10.961-07:00Excellent post. To save ourselves, we need to get ...Excellent post. To save ourselves, we need to get back to basics and common sense. The "American Dream" TM as packaged and pushed should fade into history, and Americans should get back to doing what we did best: taking care of ourselves, and enjoying the simple things in life...Mayberryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07664966137470121099noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-99704500378481622.post-81221326164650182522010-08-20T14:05:38.881-07:002010-08-20T14:05:38.881-07:00See all those Predator and Reaper drone attacks ar...See all those Predator and Reaper drone attacks around Afghan and Pakistan? All the wrong houses hit with missiles? Doors kicked in to family homes at 4am?<br /><br />Do you really think that just a few of those long-memoried folks have not now dedicated their lives to getting big-time revenge against the nations behind these actions? And their economies?<br /><br />So we are spending all that money to fight terrorism and our great leaders have done nothing except turn the ME into a firestorm (with the worst still to come)and to guarantee an eventual horrifying payback on the US homeland (what we want to stop DOH).<br /><br />Now our leaders will not back out because withdrawal would besmirch US honor and would be a betrayal of the already fallen. So we stay and keep bleeding till it all falls apart. Yup great use of tax money.<br /><br />Regards.<br />MarshallAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-99704500378481622.post-27420422937250864262010-08-20T13:55:41.775-07:002010-08-20T13:55:41.775-07:00Heh Bur
First off personally I am against the spe...Heh Bur<br /><br />First off personally I am against the spending you threw out there as well. I am not ignoring any social spending...just take my word for it. OK?<br /><br />I am especially against educational spending and most solidly against government funding and loans for it at least to the scale it is done to today.<br /><br />I am also against agricultural support as well honestly.<br /><br />My argument with your theory is that everyone wants them. I don't believe that and I think the tea party is a sign of that.<br /><br />Social security is an issue because so many have paid into it they had better get something back. It is owed to them.<br /><br />I am sure from where you sit everybody wants all the social spending to continue. It isn't that way from where I sit...<br /><br />Oh and nice throw of the racist card. I really thought you were above that kinda thing.PioneerPreppyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09269878017447335944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-99704500378481622.post-10233968747475797022010-08-20T13:41:51.378-07:002010-08-20T13:41:51.378-07:00(The "third party" will never get anywhe...(The "third party" will never get anywhere because the only thing holding them together is this belief that, with nutcase Palin, they can have the 1950s back, when the darkies knew their place and Charley had that great lifetime job with the steel mill. Sadly, humans are either-or on every issue. Only room for two parties>.) :)bureaucrathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03869739125758038029noreply@blogger.com